gettin new radiator

[zakt]

getting this new radiator setup soon by Be Cool is 66-79 and can handle 700hp part# 60250. My 460 will be pushing 500hp+ so need some better cooling.

[mrsnicks]

WOWsers....Looks good, but not sure I even want to ask you how much you paid for that. I don't see ports for auto transmission cooling lines so I guess you're using a manual transmission or are using some other type of transmission cooler?

Patrick

[robroy]

Good day ZakT,

Your BeCool radiator looks extremely nice! I looked in to those when I was shopping for something for #50 and wound up going with the factory style instead, but those BeCool products look very high end!

I'll bet their included fan and wiring will work very well and save you the time of having to figure it all out from scratch. And I'll bet it's all top quality stuff.

I'll be curious to see photos of it when it arrives and when it's installed!

Robroy

[zakt]

havent ordered yet, but will be soon... I will be using the C6 and that will have the ports on it for the trans the above picture they sent me and assume that is for the manual as you can get either or. I think there quailty is very good also and the fans everything comes with it so yea simple bolt in hook up and dont have to worry about the shroud and all that with the electric fans. It is some $$

[basketcase0302]

Very nice zact! How thick is that thing?

[zakt]

here is a side view. Does anyone know how much HP the stock super cool radiator can handle?

[robroy]

Good afternoon ZakT!

here is a side view.

That is a beautiful thing!

Does anyone know how much HP the stock super cool radiator can handle?

I asked this question before when I was planning to install a ~436 horsepower FE in #50, and heard that the stock radiators--even the standard radiator--work very well with high performance engines even in very hot climates.

Naturally, one information source was in stark disagreement with this assessment: BeCool. I spoke with them on the phone and heard that the stock radiators are woefully inadequate for large performances engines.

I don't mean to "put a wet towel," if that's the right expression, on your BeCool plan, yet from what I've heard, the stock radiators are adequate for cooling high performance engines in traffic jams in 100 degree + weather. I'm only mentioning this now that I gather you haven't already bought a BeCool setup.

Here's the main thread where I received this advice: BeCool radiators: are they a good for my setup and fair $?

Of course, the BeCool setup is still beautiful and I'm sure it's worth every penny! I'm just not convinced that it's necessary to cool large performance engines in our trucks.

Another thing to consider is that the aluminum radiators are less durable than the old fashioned, original style. AND, if you DO sustain damage to the radiator, from a rock on the road or anything, BeCool recommends sending the radiator back to them for repair. They said that most radiator shops can't repair them. This was one of the main reasons I wound up sticking to a quality, factory-style replacement instead of going aluminum.

Robroy

[robroy]

'Afternoon ZakT, I just thought of another thing.

I'm realize that you're going to use a 385-series engine, and I'm not sure if they tend to run hotter than an FE or not. All the advice I received was based on the premise of using an FE.

If the 385-series engines tend to run cooler, then the advice I received may be even more applicable to your scenario.

By the way, I just have to say it again: your crew cab is a dream-truck!!!

Have an excellent afternoon ZakT!
Robroy

[zakt]

Thanx for the link

it has made me rethink needing the new radiator, I probably will put in the stock one then and run it and see where its at (I might call be cool though for just the fan setup on the stock, it looks like it should fit)

I have the stock super cool radiator have A/C also is that a 3 core or (is that when you look in the cap and see how many rows are inside it ie. 3 core, 3 rows?)

[robroy]

Good afternoon ZakT!

Thanx for the link

You're most welcome! It's nice when information and advice can be re-used.

it has made me rethink needing the new radiator, I probably will put in the stock one then and run it and see where its at (I might call be cool though for just the fan setup on the stock, it looks like it should fit)

From the little I know about this subject, I think that's a good idea. It might save you a thousand bucks, and I'll bet you'll be completely happy with your stock radiator type. Especially if it's a Supercool style!

As you've probably already considered, it may be a good idea to ask BeCool where their electric fans are made before buying those from them. Depending on their answer to that question, you might have a better understanding about how far ahead you'd be quality-wise to buy their stuff, versus buying fan(s) of suitable CFM from Summit.

And I'm sure you've noticed the large number of Bumpsiders who enjoy the Taurus and Lincoln electric fan setups.

Have a great evening ZakT!
Robroy

[robroy]

Good evening ZakT,

I have the stock super cool radiator have A/C also is that a 3 core or??

I believe they (Modine/Proliance) offer both three and four row replacements for the Super Cool radiator. I'm not sure which was stock!

Are you planning on re-using your existing radiator, or replacing it with a new, factory-style one?

Robroy

[zakt]

Im thinking use the stock one, I also believe you can open the cap and see the rows then for how many core?

[robroy]

'Afternoon ZakT!

Im thinking use the stock one

OK! My reason for asking was that if you were thinking of replacing your existing stock radiator with a new one of the stock variety, I could find one or two threads discussing the best sources for quality, stock-style radiators. If your existing radiator's in good shape then you're probably set!

I also believe you can open the cap and see the rows then for how many core?

This I don't know. Perhaps an experienced FORDification member will comment.

The method I've used to determine the number of rows before has been to measure the thickness of the radiator core. Then you can look at a chart of core thicknesses (like the one in the NPD catalog) to see which one you have.

By the way, Modine/Proliance make 3 row radiators of an improved design now, which are supposed to exceed the cooling performance of the original 4 row radiators. That's the type I put in #50 (the enhanced 3 row type). They sell both types (the original 3 row type, and the enhanced 3 row type).

Robroy

[zakt]

Well looks like keeping the stock radiator (I have the super cool) and it can be re-cored if I need more cooling... so with that working on a electric fan shroud will be all stainless steel and be about 2" deep to bolt on like the OEM one. The top and bottom holes by the fans are where braces can be mounted across if I get alot of flex when there going. The fans are the ones in the above aluminum radiator (SPAL 12")

UPDATED:
This is the flat 16 gauge drawing that will be laser cut out then bent and welded on the corners to be about 2" depth.

[mrtleavitt]

I'm running 450 hp with my 428 with a stock radiator. I've never ever had the temp warm up on me. I've ran it pretty hard in stop and go traffic. I would say stick with the stock setup and if you have problems then go for a better setup.