390 will not run right

Engine, ignition, fuel, cooling, exhaust

Moderators: Ranchero50, DuckRyder

Post Reply
Jarred Hodges
Preferred User
Preferred User
Posts: 269
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:02 pm
Location: Dora Alabama

390 will not run right

Post by Jarred Hodges »

After we put the new cam and lifters in the 390 it ran good. It was not a stump puller but ran smooth. A couple weeks ago I thought the timing might be off so I moved the distributor. When I went to crank it it backfired threw the carb and would never run right. I moved the timing back to where it was and it still would not run right. I figured blown power valve so I swapped another good carb on and it still won't run right. I put the original carb on the maverick and it ran great so I am stumped. if anyone has any ideas I would appreciate them :fr:
1971 F-100 swb 401 fe , edelbrock intake, cam, valve covers, longtube headers with twin 2.5 inch exhaust, aluminum wheels.
1965 Mustang 350 glide 7.45 at 90mph
1972 maverick 460 swap in progress
2002 z28 a few bolt ons
fordman
100% FORDified!
100% FORDified!
Posts: 22329
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:17 pm
Location: Kansas, Ottawa
Contact:

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by fordman »

how does it not run right?
Jarred Hodges
Preferred User
Preferred User
Posts: 269
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:02 pm
Location: Dora Alabama

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by Jarred Hodges »

it will barely crank, will not run right and will not rev up at all
1971 F-100 swb 401 fe , edelbrock intake, cam, valve covers, longtube headers with twin 2.5 inch exhaust, aluminum wheels.
1965 Mustang 350 glide 7.45 at 90mph
1972 maverick 460 swap in progress
2002 z28 a few bolt ons
User avatar
BobbyFord
100% FORDified!
100% FORDified!
Posts: 5383
Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:52 am
Location: Chatsworth, California

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by BobbyFord »

Have you put a timing light on it?
User avatar
Redcap
Blue Oval Fanatic
Blue Oval Fanatic
Posts: 947
Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:29 pm
Location: Washington, Centralia
Contact:

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by Redcap »

BobbyFord wrote:Have you put a timing light on it?
My thought too. Sounds like the timing is off.
fordman
100% FORDified!
100% FORDified!
Posts: 22329
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:17 pm
Location: Kansas, Ottawa
Contact:

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by fordman »

yes it does sounds liek timing to me.
User avatar
ToughOldFord
100% FORDified!
100% FORDified!
Posts: 1913
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:47 pm
Location: Communist California, USA

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by ToughOldFord »

Maybe bad points/condenser.
User avatar
Dragon
100% FORDified!
100% FORDified!
Posts: 2659
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:43 pm
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Contact:

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by Dragon »

important question what kind of carb and what went back on. If putting the old carb on fixed the problem then you don't need to do anything but make the timing right for now.
Old Fords Rule
Was a Ford Service Tech
71 F250 with Shell Car 390 NP435 Dana 60 3.73s, PS, PB, 750 EC VS Holley Accel Points Eliminator.
98 Volvo S70 2.4T Auto
71 Service manuals Volumes 1,2,3 and 4 So ask away. :)
My Gallery
Spark test
User avatar
ToughOldFord
100% FORDified!
100% FORDified!
Posts: 1913
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:47 pm
Location: Communist California, USA

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by ToughOldFord »

He put the old carb on a different vehicle to check it, as I read it anyway.
tnbumper
New Member
New Member
Posts: 78
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:33 pm
Location: Flintville, Tennessee

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by tnbumper »

Is it running right at idle but not when you accelerate? The vacuum advance could be bad. Consider upgrading to a new distributor. I bought an HEI distributor for a 289, NIB on Ebay from a speed shop in Knoxville for less than $75 delivered. It's got GM cap,rotor, and coil and only requires 1 wire to a 12 volt source and has a tach wire port. tnbumper
1955 Ford Customline
1969 F100 SWB 302, 3 speed
1973 Mustang Convertible
1986 F150 5.0L auto, bought 4/2/10
1989 Mustang GT H/B
User avatar
Dragon
100% FORDified!
100% FORDified!
Posts: 2659
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:43 pm
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Contact:

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by Dragon »

ToughOldFord wrote:He put the old carb on a different vehicle to check it, as I read it anyway.
Then put the new carb on the Maverick and try it to eliminate any questions. If it does not work on the Maverick leave the truck alone and solve the carb issue.

Don't touch the timing, points or vacuum anything until the engine timing is set with a light.
Old Fords Rule
Was a Ford Service Tech
71 F250 with Shell Car 390 NP435 Dana 60 3.73s, PS, PB, 750 EC VS Holley Accel Points Eliminator.
98 Volvo S70 2.4T Auto
71 Service manuals Volumes 1,2,3 and 4 So ask away. :)
My Gallery
Spark test
Jarred Hodges
Preferred User
Preferred User
Posts: 269
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:02 pm
Location: Dora Alabama

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by Jarred Hodges »

both carbs work fine on another vehicle.
1971 F-100 swb 401 fe , edelbrock intake, cam, valve covers, longtube headers with twin 2.5 inch exhaust, aluminum wheels.
1965 Mustang 350 glide 7.45 at 90mph
1972 maverick 460 swap in progress
2002 z28 a few bolt ons
User avatar
knightfire83
Blue Oval Fan
Blue Oval Fan
Posts: 567
Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:52 pm
Location: Nebraska, Lincoln
Contact:

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by knightfire83 »

It was not a stump puller but ran smooth.

Indicates to me that something was amiss after the cam swap. Aren't 390's considered torque monsters, they are at least to me.

Camshaft timing off?

Incorrect firing order?

Bent push rods?

Broken or weak valve springs?
1974 Ford F-100 4x4- 360 / manual.
1970 Ford F250 4x4 ~ Sold.
User avatar
70_F100
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2999
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:23 am
Location: North Carolina, Kernersville

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by 70_F100 »

It's possible that the backfire blew out the PCV valve or one of the intake gaskets.
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools talk because they have to say something.--Plato
Why is it that there's seldom time to fix it right the first time, but there's always time to fix it right the second time???

That's not an oil leak :nono: That's SWEAT from all that HORSEPOWER!! :thup:
Jarred Hodges
Preferred User
Preferred User
Posts: 269
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:02 pm
Location: Dora Alabama

Re: 390 will not run right

Post by Jarred Hodges »

It doesn't leak water so Idoubt if it is an intake gasket. Before we swapped cams it was weak too. This motor has never impressed me powerwise. I just want to get it back drivable so I can sell it
1971 F-100 swb 401 fe , edelbrock intake, cam, valve covers, longtube headers with twin 2.5 inch exhaust, aluminum wheels.
1965 Mustang 350 glide 7.45 at 90mph
1972 maverick 460 swap in progress
2002 z28 a few bolt ons
Post Reply