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on the back of the block it has the numbers 66-427. on the front of the block it has the numbers 57 and 352. on the tappet covers it has cobra le mans. this is my buddys motor. he was told it was a 390 and i find that hard to believe bc i have a 390 in mine and have a lot more room to work around. im thinkin its between a 427 and 429
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No, it's not a 429, not with those casting numbers. If it were a 427, you would see the cross-bolts for the 4 bolt mains on the side of the block, just above the oil pan. 427 has the same outside appearance and dimensions as a 390 (as do all of the FE's) The only way to tell would be to stick a wooden dowel down one of the spark plug holes, carefully rotate the engine by hand and measure the stroke. It could be 352, 360 or 390.
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SoCalExile wrote:Does this link help?

http://www.carcraft.com/techfaq/116_990 ... ndex5.html
This must have been written by a chevy guy.

(quote) These two ribs (arrows)at the back near the distributor clearly distinguish this as a 351 Windsor.

I'm wondering how accurate the rest of the article is. :hmm:
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This one is probably more accurate, although I think we already determined it is an FE...

http://www.fordification.com/tech/engineID-V8.htm
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cep62 wrote:
SoCalExile wrote:Does this link help?

http://www.carcraft.com/techfaq/116_990 ... ndex5.html
This must have been written by a chevy guy.

(quote) These two ribs (arrows)at the back near the distributor clearly distinguish this as a 351 Windsor.

I'm wondering how accurate the rest of the article is. :hmm:
:yt: If the distributor is at the back it surely is not a 351w much less a ford at all so I think I wouldn't use that info!!
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Oh yeah, smells like a Chevy guy:
Ford FE Series
The FE series of engines, produced in displacements of 332, 352, 360, 361, 390, 406, 410, 427, and 428 ci between 1958 and 1976, has a five-bolt valve cover and Chevy-style water pump and is also identifiable by its intake manifold, which forms part of the valve cover surface.
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ToughOldFord wrote:Oh yeah, smells like a Chevy guy:
Ford FE Series
The FE series of engines, produced in displacements of 332, 352, 360, 361, 390, 406, 410, 427, and 428 ci between 1958 and 1976, has a five-bolt valve cover and Chevy-style water pump and is also identifiable by its intake manifold, which forms part of the valve cover surface.
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if you think abotu it. the chevy water pump bolts to the blcok with 4 bolts just like a fe does.
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Something tells me this paragraph is full of misinformation also...
For example, both the 429 and 460 big-blocks (385 series) and the 351M and 400M share identical blocks and heads.

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sometimes you have to read through what others post. 429 460 . 351m 400. that is probably what he meant. always get more than one source for information.
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michael69 wrote: :yt: If the distributor is at the back it surely is not a 351w much less a ford at all so I think I wouldn't use that info!!
:) Michael, FYI, Ford's first overhead valve V8's ( commonly known as Y-blocks ) have the distributor at the rear of the engine. :)
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AlleyCat wrote:
michael69 wrote: :yt: If the distributor is at the back it surely is not a 351w much less a ford at all so I think I wouldn't use that info!!
:) Michael, FYI, Ford's first overhead valve V8's ( commonly known as Y-blocks ) have the distributor at the rear of the engine. :)
:oops: forgot about that!! :thup:
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Post by Dragon »

No, it's not a 429, not with those casting numbers. If it were a 427, you would see the cross-bolts for the 4 bolt mains on the side of the block, just above the oil pan.
There were a few non side oiler 427s in 66 and 67. They came in low end Galaxies with Single 4V. If a 427 came with Medium or High riser heads then they were always 2-4v and side oilers. But low riser heads were always Single 4V
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fordman wrote:if you think abotu it. the chevy water pump bolts to the blcok with 4 bolts just like a fe does.
Then that means that the Chevy's use an FE-style water pump. Duh.
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